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Am I the only person I know who doesn't really have much of a problem with a national ID card?

(for the record, I *do* have serious problems with some of the stuff they're considering including as the content on those cards, but a national ID card as a concept doesn't bother me.)

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Date: 2005-05-12 03:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gridlore.livejournal.com
Except that a passport isn't required, and doesn't carry half the information the proposed card would.

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Date: 2005-05-12 04:17 pm (UTC)
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That would fall under the bit about "proposed uses".

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Date: 2005-05-12 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ttocs.livejournal.com
I think you are splitting hairs.

The passport is an ID for the express purpose of international documentation, and is recognized by multiple governments.

There is no requirement to carry a passport within your home country.

A "National ID Card" is not recognized by any government other than the issuing one, and is purposed purely for internal tracking and documentation.

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Date: 2005-05-12 08:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arib.livejournal.com

There is no requirement to carry a passport within your home country.


You needed one to travel internally in the USSR.

Apparently, in Soviet Russia, passport stamps you!

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Date: 2005-05-13 03:46 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] rosefox
What I'm wondering is why not combine the two. I've never understood why people asking for photo ID would rather see my (nonexistent) driver's license than my passport. It's already a Federal document and contains my date of birth, photograph, and signature, as well as a record of where I've been. It seems like it would be much simpler to add a magstrip or smart card to encode whatever else is determined to be reasonable, relevant, and legal than to mandate the creation of a whole other document.

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Date: 2005-05-13 03:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arib.livejournal.com
Passports are too large to easily carry around, driver's licenses are too small for visas and entry/exit stamps.

In this case, size matters. :-)

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